When you were a kid, what did you think being a grown-up would be like?
GM: A lot of freedom. Going to Pirate’s Park (the local amusement park) any time I wanted to. Staying up late and unregulated TV. It was not about responsibility, or having a job, or anything like that, but more like autonomy and being in charge of my own life, doing things I liked to do more often. Having a car and having my own house.
DWB: When I was a kid — at least the “kid” I identify with — I was a short, flaming-red-haired, slightly pudgy boy living in Southern California. Being about twenty pounds overweight with red hair made me a bit of an outcast. I’d constantly search for what I’d look like as a grown-up. I’d stare at red-headed men and try to imagine if that was going to be me. I don’t know if my idea of being a grown-up went much beyond a basic need to want to be wanted, want to be accepted. And now I’m an actor. Go figure.
BB: Cool, because then I could fly jets.
At what moment did you first feel you were a real adult?
BB: When I smoked my first cigarette.
DWB: The moment I feel I’m a grown-up is the moment right before I make an enormous ass of myself. So I try to avoid that feeling at all costs. It bodes of darkness and lunacy. And not the good kind.
GM: Oh god. I go in and out of being a grown up regularly, cyclically. It’s not a static state but a constant battle for this contested ground of adulthood. If I had to pick a single moment, I’d say it was when I rented my first apartment. (Which happened when I moved to L.A. [It’s] this little twenties-style apartment on North Ardmore.)
At what moment in adulthood did you realize you were not at all a grown-up?
GM: Every time I see my parents and sister I revert back to thirteen. Those old patterns run deep.
BB: When I could not get a sail down on a boat in a horrible storm. There was no one to help me. Also, anytime anything or anyone made me cry like a baby…because I was crying, like a baby.
DWB: Yesterday. Because I’m still making the basic assumption that I have any idea what I’m doing.
What’s the one part of adulthood you wish you’d been better prepared for as a child?
DWB: Liking who I am, meaning being OK with liking what I like and letting others like what they like, and not feeling like liking what they like is important to liking what I like and visa-versa-visa.
GM: I wish I’d known more about time and money and food and how to handle them better. Right? Right? Right.